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Still good, but... still also meh.

I don't like how the guitar just vanishes at about 3:00, seems too sudden. Then it comes back in surprisingly. There also seems to be some distortion on the guitar.

The intro threw me for a loop. I thought it was at a completely different timing than it actually was.

Drums are good. The guitar is pretty good, aside from the distortion.

Some of the transitions could be improved, as well as the length of some of the sections. Some sections seem to just drag on and on...

The outro could use some work. It seems to leave a big empty patch, making me think, "Wait, it's over? I thought it would drag on for another 20 minutes."

The last thing I have to say is that it has the common failing of many songs in this day and age. It doesn't really have structure. It just "goes", without a real format like ABA, ABCA, ABACA, etc.

Honestly, I think you have a lot of potential, a lot of good ideas, but it needs more form. I'm still learning form, admittedly, but... this could be so much more.

Overall, to anyone who reads this, don't let it be said that this isn't worth your time. It most definitely IS worth your time. Everything can be improved, and it's always worth the time to listen and learn from mistakes, whoever makes them.

RunningShadows responds:

Thank you so much for your advice!

Use FLS much?

Ok, this could use some key changes, rather than just percussion changes and the same tune the whole way through.

I could literally skip to any part in the song, and it sounded like it made sense, just that the track had skipped a bit. This isn't good.

The instruments could use some work, repetitiveness is too bad. I know that's what makes over 90% of music these days, but at least those have SOME variation. Also, it's always good to stand above the rest by changing things up. Pop =/= Really good music. By pop, I mean "popular" music, like what most music you hear on the radio is. This includes rock, techno, normal "pop", dubstep, country...

In any case, that's my two cents. Hope it helps.

The irony

is that you rated a different song lower, when it was about as good as this.

But then again, I go after other songs for what some of my own don't have. So I can't really complain much about that. I'll judge this song on its merits alone, rather than bias it in any way.

-Variation. Need. More. Variation. The whole thing honestly sounds like the same thing throughout. I honestly skipped from, like, the beginning to 0:42, and it could have been there. Just about the whole song could be rearranged any way you want, and it would sound pretty much the same. This is [u][b]NOT A GOOD SIGN.[b][u] (if anyone here uses BBcode in forums, they'll get that.) Try making the chording different in different areas throughout the song. As it is, I'm bored in about 20 seconds, also not a good sign. If you have it more variable and attention-drawing, that would make it a much better song.

Now, on to the good parts.

-Mixing. Very good. Not many complaints about that, not much to say about that. I don't really factor in the mixing job as much as other things (provided you can hear things, there's not much distortion, etc.)

-Instrumentation. Very good. You obviously took time to make the instruments. (either that or searched through Reason or something) If you did make the instruments, I would love it if you could make some for me. lol. Great job here too.

-Transitions. Eh. They're transitions. Not overly good, not overly cool, but not bad. Of course, I could definitely make "transitions" singular, since there's not much of a change in the song.

I really don't have much else to say, but... here's your general rundown.

Yes, it's cool, but as ESTAR48 said, far too repetitive and empty. Your music production is top-notch. Your composition element, however, is MAJORLY lacking.

Tuscanic responds:

In my learning years of music production, I focused on the sound rather than the composition. As a result, I am a huge perfectionist on the mix and I don't pay attention to the melodic portion of my songs. I can come up with some cool riffs, but I need to expand my knowledge on music theory to help me make a full story out of my ideas. Don't worry, I am getting there step by step.

Thanks for taking the time to review. :)

Tuscanic, it's not THAT bad.

The mixing could use some work, true, but it's not that bad. I can hear everything if I try, even if it doesn't stand out.

Now. Since my previous review is gone at this point... Points that I hear need improvement!

-Transitions. This is self explanatory. The transitions are zilch to nil.
-Variation.
-Instruments. Yes, it needs different instruments. Just techno pads/synths/leads won't cut it. If you want it to sound ethnic, put some more interesting instruments in there. How about a flute? A guitar? A kanun/qanun?

There's a lot you could do with this, and it shows promise. Good work overall though, worth a listen.

ESTAR48 responds:

thanks for tips SkyeWintrest, well everybody is free to rate zero if they want lol!

Not bad at all.

Only reason I give it a seven is because it needs to be extended. Desperately. Aside from that, it's awesome.

ganon95 responds:

like i said in one of the earlier reviews, it will be longer...much longer :)

Pretty cool intro.

The intro is awesome. But the rest of the song seems like there's something lacking. It's just one loop. The drums sound cool. But there's no real tune, and again, it's just one loop. :| No ending either. I'd fix it up, make it longer, and make it so it's not just a single loop. Nobody generally likes listening to 32 seconds of the same 3-4 second loop.

Trance-like beats don't all need repetition.

It's pretty good, but yeah. Too much repetition and "same-ness". There's also the lack of transitions, but on the whole, reasonably good.

ESTAR48 responds:

well, i now know thats a mistake, but in those days i composed that song, i didnt know that at all, im with you in that... now im stuck, my pc is running low so i cant make more songs, but im about to fix it, so ill make better songs, these song has like 7 months, just uploaded today lol...

Eh...

Pretty good overall. But, I have to say, it is FAR too repetitive and "wub, wub, wub, wub, wub, wub..."

I have to agree with the bit about the guitar. While it coming in suddenly isn't bad, the fact that it just goes and goes, then stops so abruptly makes me, at least, and probably several other people think: "What just happened?" It kind of hurts. Same thing for the ending. It just stops dead in its tracks, like suddenly a brick wall appeared in front of the music, making it smash into the wall and fall to the ground cartoon-style. That's what it makes me think of.

I also think the bass and drumbeat could have a /little/ variance. I mean, really. It's just the same thing over and over again. Yes, it has a pulse. No, it is not as fun when it just stays like that the whole time.

Overall, very atmospheric and well-mixed, but... a bit boring. Doesn't really make me feel "fulfilled" if I were wanting music.

RunningShadows responds:

Yeah you're correct about most of this. I think we got excited about the beginning and then totally ran of inspiration. Stopping the reverb did basically what we wanted it to do and that is to catch the listener off guard. I think we hoped that it would grow on the listener, but now I'm not sure. Thanks for the review, I think it would be best if we retooled this song a bid, maybe streamlined it

Alright, let's see, time to make a full review...

Intro: 8/10 I give it this because the bass seems slightly too staccato, and the drums are FAR too loud. (that's in my opinion, of course. They just seem to tell the piano to go jump out a window.) The strings coming in was nice, as well as the synth.

Instrumentation: 10/10 Very, VERY nice variety. There's a huge blend of synths, the orchestra, the drums fit in very well.

Drums: 8/10 You know I love your drums. :P My only problem with these are that they are a /little/ too overwhelming throughout.

Bass: 7/10 Good, but... This is where you lose more points. It's far, FAR too... boring. That's not my biggest problem though, my biggest problem is the bassy synth that comes in starting at about 1:00. It keeps going, VERY loud, and overpowers everything else.

Mixing: 9/10 Good good. You normally have extremely good mixing. But starting at about... 2:17, it gets way too busy, and while I can hear everything, it's all a big muddy mess of notes. While yes, it is EXTREMELY climactic, it's just... too much. I feel like I'm drowning in a mass of notes and noise. Holding back a little bit from there until 3:22 would have been nice, that or having it be a little bit shorter so it doesn't sound like someone yelling for a minute straight.

Outro: 8/10 Love how it fades out from about 3:44, possibly because of the sigh of relief from not having that hugely loud and muddy synth. I do not like how everything just stops at 4:00, though.

Overall score: 50/60, or 8.3/10.

Simplified overall score: 8/10, which is quite a bit better than a lot of the stuff that gets tossed in.

Er...

It's good, Sounds wonderful, until the bass comes in. That bass made me think: "What?"
It just doesn't seem to fit. I don't know what's wrong, whether it's in a different key or something, but...

There's also the end. Starting at 1:46, everything just slows down and changes to a different key, and the bass stays the same. It doesn't really seem to work for me.

I mean, it's good. Nice and relaxing and all. But... no. Just, no. Those parts ruin it for me. :|

Electronic/ambient artist. I started making music more than random scribblings in the fall of 2010, around the end of November. I think I've come a long way since then!

Skye @SkyeWint

Age 28, Female

Mixing/Mastering Gal

University of Oregon

Eugene, OR

Joined on 2/2/11

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